Touch Screen Monitors

[Karlos]

Quick question.
Is it possible to buy a touch screen monitor and then attach it to a Macbook/Pro and use it like a Modbook with Photoshop?
Just wondering if it is possible.

God bless.
In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[MAC7331]

Probably possible, but it would be very very clumsy for Ps work.

What you want for Photoshop and other design apps is a Wacom Intuos or Cintiq (built in display)

Other tablets may be ok too, but I don't believe many have tilt and bearing detection. And Wacom has great quality and drivers.

[Karlos]

Hmm...
Those Modbook videos look great, but to modify a Macbook/Pro I'd rather not. That is why I was wondering about using a second 'touchscreen' monitor.

Still, I guess with the power lead and the video lead sooner or later I'm bound to yank the Macbook/Pro right off the table! Just an Idea. I used to use a large Wacom tablet but found it awkward scribbling on the tablet then looking at the monitor...but with these new touchscreens and pressure/angle sensitive pens things have totally changed.

In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[MAC7331]

Tilt detection is very rare, I doubt any touchable/pennable screen has is save the Cintiq. Modbook page doesn't mention it. Among the wacoms only the Intuos and Cintiq have it.

It takes some practice getting used to a tablet, but you get quite use to it. There is no reason to look at the tablet, the curser on the screen follows your mouse around until you press down. But I can see the appeal having the two together.

Edit: Tilt and bearing are really only needed for Corel Painter and other apps that simulate natural media come to think of it.

[Karlos]

Just done a quick Google, Youtube and eBay search on both the Intuos and Cintiq. The Intuos seems to be strictly a tablet which I never got the hang of (my old Wacom tablet) but the Cintiq... a true touchscreen. However the Cintiq seems to be so expensive that in many cases it would be cheaper to buy a Modbook.

I guess Cintiq's will drop in price sooner or later as there are bound to be other companies developing touch screens in the near future as many OS's seem to be going that way or at least include that feature, so sooner or later I will get one.

God bless.
In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[Karlos]

This could be my cheapest option for the moment but it looks as though it will only work on my Windows machine.

http://hantech.ca/product/product_detai ... D=00030001

It turns any monitor into a touch screen by fixing a sensor to the top of it and then by using their Hantech pen ($99). The sensor simply monitors the pen's movements. I could probably use it with Paintshop Pro version 10. Unfortunately my old version of Photoshop runs on Mac OS9 and Windows 98 and therefore non up-gradable.

See the videos on the site...

In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[MAC7331]

If you think about it, you use your mouse without looking at it. You just need more practice with the Wacom. These tablet/touch-screens are nothing more than gimmicks unless you're creating graphics or CAD. Unless the OS is built for it, like the iPad, you will use the touchscreen for no more than ten minutes and then never touch it again. Trust me. Save your money. Or buy some other kind of fun.

[Karlos]

One God given gift I do have is that I am very artistic, I was from a very early age and just love drawing etc...
I tried with the Wacom tablet but just couldn't do it, tried and tried. As the touch screen is more natural I could use that for sure.
Still, until prices drop it isn't going to happen. I recon in the next 5 years they'll not only be cheaper new models flooding the market but secondhand ones kicking around too, that'll do me, I can wait.

In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[MAC7331]

MS or someone else is bound to produce a touchscreen platform that competes soon enough. There's differentiate between touchable and pennable [sp?] however. One cannot hope to get much more than finger-painting done in Photoshop with a touch only screen. Which is what the iPad has, with no pressure sensing, if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully this will change and/or the competition will offer pen action.

Have fun and good luck Karlos!

[MAC7331]

here is something that may interest you. I don't know much anything about these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smart-ID250-Wacom-Sympodium-Interactive-Pen-Display-WOW_W0QQitemZ280465448827QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414d0b1f7b#ht_1104wt_917

[MAC7331]

here's something else to consider

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacom-Cintiq-15-pen-tablet-display_W0QQitemZ110498675577QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item19ba3bfb79

[Karlos]

here's something else to consider

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacom-Cintiq-15-pen-tablet-display_W0QQitemZ110498675577QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item19ba3bfb79

Thanks Mac...
I've 'checked them out' before...they are great but quite expensive. Informative video on this page...
http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/

I checked the prices sometime ago and they are way out of my league (ie over a tenner )
Heard anything about the new MBP yet? I've got the cash but still waiting, I'm dug-in and in for the long haul.

In Christ Jesus, Karl.

[MAC7331]

[MAC7331]

Just get the cheapest used tablet PC laptop you can find. Bada-bing.

[Otto Boners]

I can provide you with many other god-given gifts, my son.

[MAC7331]

here's something else to consider

http://cgi.ebay.com/Wacom-Cintiq-15-pen-tablet-display_W0QQitemZ110498675577QQcmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item19ba3bfb79

Thanks Mac...
I've 'checked them out' before...they are great but quite expensive.

That one sold for 400US

[cunty_baws]

I fucking HATE fingerprints on my displays.

A touch-screen PC/Mac goes against everything I've learned - just like scratching with vinyl - hands OFF, handle by the edges/center label only.

[MAC7331]

I think maybe Otto scared him away.

This picture is freaky. It's a long scroll down and I was expecting the worst the whole way. Still creepy though.

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This is neat:

[MAC7331]

I recently got a chance to borrow one of these pen displays, the kind you draw directly on the screen, a late model Wacom Cintiq. The pen displays are definitely more than a gimmick but the regular Wacom tablets offer a better experience, in case anyone was wondering. I'm confident most people would agree after some time with both.

EDIT: Here's one big reason; The pen gets in the way of your sight. I know you are thinking; well this is how it works with real natural media. True. But it's one big advantage to ordinary Wacom tablets that the drawing tool does not block your view whatsoever. And it's very nice feature.

[MAC7331]

Here's something I did with with black ink, paper, a scanner, a $35 wacom tablet and an old version of Corel Painter.



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The black was done with real ink and a real brush.